Interview with Author Laurah Norton – ‘Lay Them To Rest’

In this riveting episode of True Crime Convos, join us for an exclusive interview with author Laurah Norton, the brilliant mind behind ‘Lay Them To Rest.’ Hosted and somewhat produced by Lanie Hobbs, this conversation delves deep into the intriguing world of true crime and the mysteries that inspired Norton’s gripping book.

📚 Pre-order ‘Lay Them To Rest’ on Hachette using code “LayThemToRest” and explore the chilling narrative: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/

🎙️ Subscribe to True Crime Convos on your favorite podcast player and follow Lanie Hobbs on Instagram: @LanieHobbsVO.Follow my socials: https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs 

📖 Discover more about Laurah Norton and ‘Lay Them To Rest’ on Instagram: @LayThemToRest and at https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/.

📢 CONTEST ALERT! 📢

Want a chance to win a copy of ‘Lay Them To Rest’? Follow these steps:

1️⃣ Follow ‘Lay Them To Rest’ and ‘The Fall Line’ on social media.

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Thank you for tuning in, and don’t forget to leave a positive review and rating on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast player if you enjoyed this episode. Your support means the world to me! 🌟

Twisted Tales of Love and Murder

Welcome back to True Crime Cases with Lanie! 🕵️‍♀️ Join me as we journey into the shadowy corners of true crime, exploring cases that defy reality and challenge our perceptions. From chilling mysteries that surpass fiction to eerie truths that eclipse imagination, our podcast dives deep into the darkest depths of criminal intrigue.

In our episode titled “Stranger Than Fiction,” we uncovered a sinister reality as a woman’s words turned deadly, echoing her own written words. And in “Babysitter Killers,” we peeled back the silver screen to reveal the chilling reflections of our darkest fears. Today, we’re delving into cases that could’ve been plucked from the heart of the musical Chicago, where women’s involvement in their husbands’ murders casts doubt on innocence.

But let’s not be swayed by speculation – today, we anchor ourselves in stark reality. Fred Oesterreich and Robert Samuels, victims entwined in stories of deceit and darkness, reveal hauntingly real tales that pose unsettling questions about the lengths people go to rid themselves of a spouse. Join us as we uncover the harrowing murders of Fred Oesterreich and Robert Samuels.

Content Warnings:
Spousal abuse, Domestic violence, Murder

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Events:
Passionate about true crime and the paranormal? Don’t miss the True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival, Austin, Texas, August 25th-27th, 2023. Explore panel discussions, workshops, and live podcasts, all with an ethical focus on justice and advocacy. Get your tickets now at http://www.truecrimepodcastfestival.com/tickets and take your passion to the next level.

Connect with Us:
Enjoy our podcast? Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or your preferred platform. Follow us for updates, and share the intrigue with a friend!
Twitter: @TrueCrime_Cases
Facebook: facebook.com/truecrimecaseswlanie
Instagram: @truecrimecaseswithlanie
Website: truecrimecasespodcast.com
Contact: tcfcpod@ gmail. com

Credits:
Researched, written, and edited by Jesse Hawke from the Inky Pawprint.
Content editing by Lanie Hobbs.
Audio Engineering by Neeks at We Talk of Dreams; find him on Twitter @we talk of dreams or visit the InkyPawprint.com.

Beyond The Bars

Step into the complex and contentious world of the death penalty in the United States – a topic that has haunted the country’s history for centuries. From the early days of the colonies to the present, the practice of sentencing criminals to death has been a hotly debated issue, one that has polarized even the most seasoned legal professionals and human rights advocates. 

Content Warnings: murder, sexual assault, mentions of suicide, death penalty cases, insensitive discussions of mental illness

EVENTS:
Are you a true crime advocate? Are you passionate about uncovering the truth and bringing justice to victims? Do you love the paranormal and spooky tales? Then you won’t want to miss the True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival taking place in Austin, Texas, from August 25th to 27th, 2023. This festival features panel discussions, workshops, and live podcasts, with a special focus on ethics and advocacy in the true crime sphere. Get your tickets now at http://www.truecrimepodcastfestival.com/tickets and join us in Austin for an unforgettable experience. Don’t miss out on the chance to connect with other advocates and take your passion for true crime & the paranormal to the next level. Use code LANIE for 15% off

Credits:-

Follow my socials: https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs 

Thank you for listening – if you enjoyed this episode, please leave a positive review and rating on apple podcast or your podcast player of choice; it really does help.

You can find us on most social media channels, Twitter is @TrueCrime_Cases, Facebook at facebook.com/tcfcpodcast, and Instagram @truecrimecaseswithlanie & of course, our website is www.truecrimecasespodcast.com

If you have an episode suggestion, send us an email at tcfcpod@gmail.com

This episode was written & had production assistance by Jesse Hawke. Content editing by your host, Lanie. 

Produced by Neeks at WeTalkofDreams – check him out on Twitter @WeTalkofDreams or wetalkofdreams.com 

The Carr Brothers

Wichita, Kansas, was a glorious snowy sight on the night of December 14th, 2000. The snow muffled all sound, and Christmas decorations twinkled warmly through the gloom… something that gave a faint glimmer of hope to a 25-year-old woman. The decorations shone as a light to guide her as she stumbled for nearly a mile across snowy grounds and over a barbed wire fence, freezing and severely injured, to seek help from anywhere and anyone who would offer it.

Content Warnings: sexual assault, domestic abuse, child abuse, mentions of substance abuse and attempted suicide

Podcast Rec: https://www.causeofdeath100secs.net/ By Jackie Moranty.

EVENTS:
Are you a true crime advocate? Are you passionate about uncovering the truth and bringing justice to victims? Do you love the paranormal and spooky tales? Then you won’t want to miss the True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival taking place in Austin, Texas from August 25th to 27th, 2023. This festival features panel discussions, workshops, and live podcasts, with a special focus on ethics and advocacy in the true crime sphere. Get your tickets now at http://www.truecrimepodcastfestival.com/tickets and join us in Austin for an unforgettable experience. Don’t miss out on the chance to connect with other advocates and take your passion for true crime & the paranormal to the next level. 

Credits:-

Follow my socials: https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs 

Thank you for listening – if you enjoyed this episode please leave a positive review and rating on apple podcast or your podcast player of choice, it really does help.

You can find us on most social media channels, Twitter is @TrueCrime_Cases, Facebook at facebook.com/tcfcpodcast, and Instagram @truecrimecaseswithlanie & of course, our website is www.truecrimecasespodcast.com

If you have an episode suggestion, send us an email at tcfcpod@gmail.com

This episode was written & had production assistance by Jesse Hawke. Content editing by your host, Lanie. 

Produced by Neeks at WeTalkofDreams – check him out on Twitter @WeTalkofDreams or wetalkofdreams.com 

Interested in my audiobook? Download it on now on Audible: The Little Demons Inside, by Micah Thomas & The House The Fear Built, by Kelly Martin.

Stranger Than Fiction

It’s an almost laughable headline – “woman googles how to murder her husband.” Though the truth may be stranger than fiction, clickbait is precisely that – bait to get you to look at the story, a hook to spread it as far as possible so that news sites get as much traffic and, therefore, ad revenue as they can. But behind these humorous clickbait headlines are always stories of lives cut short and tragedies befalling people who just wanted to love and care for their spouses, only for them to turn around and commit the most permanent of all betrayals against them.

Content Warnings: This episode discusses mental health issues, manipulation, mentions of suicide 

Sponsors: TRUECRIME20 for 20% off at www.babyfoot.com!

EVENTS:

Are you a true crime advocate? Are you passionate about uncovering the truth and bringing justice to victims? Do you love the paranormal and spooky tales? Then you won’t want to miss the True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival in Austin, Texas, from August 25th to 27th, 2023.

This festival features panel discussions, workshops, and live podcasts, focusing on ethics and advocacy in the true crime sphere. Get your tickets now at http://www.truecrimepodcastfestival.com/tickets and join us in Austin for an unforgettable experience.

Don’t miss out on the chance to connect with other advocates and take your passion for true crime & the paranormal to the next level. Use code: LANIE to save 15%

On 3/5/23, I’ll be in ABQ, NM – joined by my friends Josh from True Crime Bulls**t, Charlie from Crimelines, Nina from Already Gone, and Eric from True Consequences for an evening of great beer, food, and true crime cases. The show will be from 4 pm-7 pm, with two hours of true crime stories and Q&A followed by a meet and greet! Click here to purchase tickets: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/true-crime-live-albuquerque-tickets-525277939457 

Credits:-

Follow my socials: https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs 

Thank you for listening – if you enjoyed this episode please leave a positive review and rating on apple podcast or your podcast player of choice, it really does help.

You can find us on most social media channels, Twitter is @TrueCrime_Cases, Facebook at facebook.com/tcfcpodcast, and Instagram @truecrimecaseswithlanie & of course, our website is www.truecrimecasespodcast.com

If you have an episode suggestion, send us an email at tcfcpod@gmail.com

This episode was written & had production assistance by Jesse Hawke. Content editing by your host, Lanie. 

Produced by Neeks at WeTalkofDreams – check him out on Twitter @WeTalkofDreams or wetalkofdreams.com 

My Bloody Valentine, Part 2

…12 dates …

…14 love gone wrong stories…

…Will YOU be my Valentine?

This Valentine’s Day, prepare for a unique podcast experience! Shane Waters will introduce 14 crime podcast hosts, including True Crime Cases. Each host brings a new, love gone wrong true story to mix. It’s an extra special, two-part, more than two-hour, Valentine’s event. 

Podcasts are listed here in order of appearance:

In this Part 2 Episode: 

1. Sirens [https://tinyurl.com/2p8avykh]

2. The Trail Went Cold [https://tinyurl.com/2zydj3y]

3. Method and Madness [https://tinyurl.com/yc6ept53]

4. True Crime Cases with Lanie [https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs]

5. Crimelines [https://linktr.ee/crimelines]

6. Love Murder [https://tinyurl.com/39c3fzeb]

7. Foul Play: Crime Series [https://itsfoulplay.com]

In the Part 1 Episode: 

1. Murder She Told [https://murdershetold.com/connect]

2. True Crime Island [https://tinyurl.com/y6kk2npj]

3. Hillbilly Horror Stories [https://tinyurl.com/567vxrkz] 

4. Tapes from the Darkside [https://tinyurl.com/3pnff3fe]

5. Coffee and Cases [https://linktr.ee/coffeeandcases]

6. Gone Cold – Texas True Crime [https://tinyurl.com/ytzxudt8]

7. Live, Laugh, Larceny [https://linktr.ee/Live.Laugh.Larceny.Podcast]

Nikki Sue Entzel

North and South Dakota are both known for their large expanses of farmland, sleepy towns, and close-knit communities. According to Safewise, both states’ violent crime rates are lower than the national average, and their residents feel safer than in most other states. The biggest threat to North and South Dakotans usually isn’t murder—it’s people stealing packages from their front porches. But, sadly, murderous romantic entanglements can happen anywhere.

Content Warnings: murder, infidelity, brief mentions of suicide.

EVENTS:
The True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival will be held on August 25 – 27, 2023 in Austin, Texas. Join other ethical true crime podcasters, victim advocates, and paranormal creators for a weekend full of panels, round tables, and live shows. Head to www.truecrimepodcastfestival.com/tickets to purchase your early bird tickets. 

Credits:-

Follow my socials: https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs 

Thank you for listening – if you enjoyed this episode please leave a positive review and rating on apple podcast or your podcast player of choice, it really does help.

You can find us on most social media channels, Twitter is @TrueCrime_Cases, Facebook at facebook.com/tcfcpodcast, and Instagram @truecrimecaseswithlanie & of course, our website is www.truecrimecasespodcast.com

If you have an episode suggestion, send us an email at tcfcpod@gmail.com

This episode was researched and written by Andrea Marshbank. 

Content editing & production assistance by Jesse Hawke.

Produced by Neeks at WeTalkofDreams – check him out on Twitter @WeTalkofDreams or wetalkofdreams.com 

Interested in my audiobook? Download it on now on Audible: The Little Demons Inside, by Micah Thomas

The Science Of A Podcast: Ethical True Crime Consumption Ft. Lanie Hobbs

Have you heard of ethical true crime? How about victim advocacy in true crime?

In this episode, we are talking to podcaster Lanie Hobbs. Lanie is also the founder of The True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival, an event for ethical true crime podcasters, victim advocates, and paranormal creators.

We talk about ethics in true crime podcasts and what you can do as a podcaster AND a listener to be more ethical and aware of victim advocacy in this space.

Some things we chat about include:
❓What is victim advocacy, and why is it important?
🤔 As a listener, what are some of the things that you can do to be more ethical or respectful of what you choose to listen to?
🎙 What can podcasters do to make themselves more aware of victim advocacy?

Make sure to follow us on:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spreaker
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spreaker
Twitter: https://twitter.com/spreaker

The Babysitter Killers

The innocent babysitter having to fend for herself and fight off or flee from a murderer in a house, either her own or the unfamiliar home of a family she works for, is a popular urban legend and the plot to many a teen slasher movie or campfire story… But sadly, as with most urban legends, it is a tale that does have some basis in reality, as we will see in the two cases covered in today’s episode. 

Content Warnings: unsolved murders, sexual assault, assaults against minors, negligent law enforcement

EVENTS:
The True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival will be held on August 25 – 27, 2023 in Austin, Texas. Join other ethical true crime podcasters, victim advocates, and paranormal creators for a weekend full of panels, round tables, and live shows. Head to www.truecrimepodcastfestival.com/tickets to purchase your early bird tickets. 

SPONSORS: Baby Foot – use code TRUECRIME20 for 20% off of your order of skincare for your feet! www.babyfoot.com

Credits:-

Follow my socials: https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs 

Thank you for listening – if you enjoyed this episode please leave a positive review and rating on apple podcast or your podcast player of choice, it really does help.

You can find us on most social media channels, Twitter is @TrueCrime_Cases, Facebook at facebook.com/tcfcpodcast, and Instagram @truecrimecaseswithlanie & of course, our website is www.truecrimecasespodcast.com

If you have an episode suggestion, send us an email at tcfcpod@gmail.com

This episode was researched by Haley Gray and written by Suzy St John. 

Content editing & production assistance by Jesse Hawke.

Produced by Neeks at WeTalkofDreams – check him out on Twitter @WeTalkofDreams or wetalkofdreams.com 

Interested in my audiobook? Download it on now on Audible: The Little Demons Inside, by Micah Thomas

A Nightmare Before Halloween Pt. 1

…1 campfire…

…1 dark forest…

…31 bone-chilling stories…

…Will YOU survive the night?

This Halloween season, enter the woods for a unique and truly epic podcast experience! Around the campfire, Shane Waters will introduce 31 crime podcast hosts, including True Crime Cases W/ Lanie. Each host brings a new, nerve-wracking true story to the circle. It’s an extra special, two-part, five-hour, Halloween event, but before hitting play you might want to ask yourself…can you really handle this much murder and mayhem?

So, pull up to the fire and brace yourself for ‘A Nightmare Before Halloween’

…but be warned…

…bad things happen in these woods….

Podcasts are listed here in order of appearance:

In this Part 1 Episode: 

– Foul Play: Crime Series [https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay]

– Murder She Told [https://tinyurl.com/55473exk]

– Crime Salad [https://tinyurl.com/4pbtdtpc

– Crimelines [https://linktr.ee/crimelines]

– Frightful [https://link.chtbl.com/frightful]

– Reverie True Crime [https://linktr.ee/paigeelmore]

– Rotten to the Core [https://link.chtbl.com/Rotten]

– The Trail Went Cold [https://tinyurl.com/2zydj3y]

– Once Upon A Crime [https://www.truecrimepodcast.com]

– Criminology [https://tinyurl.com/yvuu9u8d]

– The Peripheral & Generation Why [https://link.chtbl.com/ThePeripheral]

– Live, Laugh, Larceny [https://linktr.ee/Live.Laugh.Larceny.Podcast]

– The Hidden Staircase [https://link.chtbl.com/TheHiddenStaircase]

– True Crime Cases with Lanie & It’s Haunted…What Now? [https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs]

– Obscura: A True Crime Podcast & Disaster [https://link.chtbl.com/obscura]

What Happened…To Emily?

A beloved wife who mysteriously disappeared, a podcast that took notice… and a suspicious husband who wasn’t telling the whole story. But this time? You’ll never guess how it ends. Today, we cover the case of Emily Noble.

Content Warnings: suicide, domestic abuse, murder, police incompetence, unsolved crimes

EVENTS:

The True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival will be held on August 25 – 27, 2023 in Austin, Texas. Join other ethical true crime podcasters, victim advocates, and paranormal creators for a weekend full of panels, round tables, and live shows. Head to www.truecrimepodcastfestival.com/tickets to purchase your early bird tickets.

Credits:-

Follow my socials: https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs

Thank you for listening – if you enjoyed this episode please leave a positive review and rating on apple podcast or your podcast player of choice, it really does help.

You can find us on most social media channels, Twitter @TrueCrime_Cases,
facebook.com/tcfcpodcast, and Instagram @truecrimecaseswithlanie & of course, our website is www.truecrimecasespodcast.com

If you have an episode suggestion, send us an email at tcfcpod@gmail.com

This episode was researched by Haley Gray and written by Andrea Marshbank.

Content editing and production assistance by Jesse Hawke

Produced by Neeks at WeTalkofDreams – check him out on Twitter @WeTalkofDreams or wetalkofdreams.com

Interested in my audiobook? Download it now on Audible: The Little Demons Inside, by Micah Thomas

Missing Moms

According to the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NAMUS), 600,000 people go missing every year. Thankfully, many of these children, women and men return home shortly afterward, but tens of thousands of individuals stay missing for over a year, with few – if any – leads to go on. Approximately 4,500 unidentified remains are found each year, as well. Yet, despite the serious nature of these cases of missing and unidentified persons, there are still people who will fake kidnappings and perpetrate hoaxes for their own gains on a regular basis – often at the expense of others.

Content Warnings: abductions & missing persons, unsolved cases, hoaxes, self-harm, adultery, racism.

SPONSORS:
EverlyWell – for listeners of the show, EverlyWell is offering a special discount of twenty percent off an at-home lab test at everlywell.com/tcfc.

EVENTS:
True Crime Live: Join Lanie & friends for two live show events!
9/22/22 at 7pm –
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/true-crime-live-tickets-328948101627?aff=efbeventtix&fs=e&s=cl
9/23/22 at 7pm –
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/true-crime-live-tickets-385627611567?aff=odcleoeventsincollection&fs=e&s=cl
The True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival will be held on August 25 – 27, 2023 in Austin, Texas. Join other ethical true crime podcasters, victim advocates, and paranormal creators for a weekend full of panels, round tables, and live shows. Head to www.truecrimepodcastfestival.com/tickets to purchase your early bird tickets.

Credits:-
Follow my socials: https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs
Thank you for listening – if you enjoyed this episode please leave a positive review and rating on apple podcast or your podcast player of choice, it really does help.
You can find us on most social media channels, Twitter @TrueCrime_Cases, facebook.com/tcfcpodcast, and Instagram @truecrimecaseswithlanie & of course, our website is truecrimecasespodcast.com
If you have an episode suggestion, send us an email at tcfcpod@gmail.com

This episode was researched by Haley Gray and written by Andrea Marshbank.
Content editing and production assistance by Jesse Hawke.
Produced by Neeks at WeTalkofDreams – check him out on Twitter @WeTalkofDreams or wetalkofdreams.com
Interested in my audiobook? Download it on now on Audible: The Little Demons Inside, by Micah Thomas

Money Can’t Keep You Safe

For people who don’t come from money, wealthy people are an enigma. It’s easy to overlook the fact that wealthy people have problems, sometimes akin to our own issues. But, the victims in today’s cases highlight that no matter how much money someone has, you’re not always safe.

Content Warnings: murder, domestic abuse, sexual assault, suicide

SPONSORS:

EverlyWell – for listeners of the show, EverlyWell is offering a special discount of twenty percent off an at-home lab test at everlywell.com/tcfc.

EVENTS:
True Crime Live: Join Lanie & friends for two live show events! 

9/22/22 at 7pm – 

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/true-crime-live-tickets-328948101627?aff=efbeventtix&fs=e&s=cl

9/23/22 at 7pm – 

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/true-crime-live-tickets-385627611567?aff=odcleoeventsincollection&fs=e&s=cl

The True Crime and Paranormal Podcast Festival will be held on August 25 – 27, 2023, in Austin, Texas. Join other ethical true crime podcasters, victim advocates, and paranormal creators for a weekend full of panels, round tables, and live shows. Head to www.truecrimepodcastfestival.com/tickets  to purchase your early bird tickets. 

Credits:-

Follow my socials: https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs 

Thank you for listening – if you enjoyed this episode, please leave a positive review and rating on apple podcast or your podcast player of choice; it really does help.

You can find us on most social media channels, Twitter @tcfcpod, facebook.com/tcfcpodcast, and Instagram @truecrimefanclubpod & of course, our website is truecrimefanclub.com

If you have an episode suggestion, send us an email at tcfcpod@gmail.com

This episode was researched by Haley Gray and written by Suzy St. John. 

Content editing and production assistance by Jesse Hawke.

Produced by Neeks at WeTalkofDreams – check him out on Twitter @WeTalkofDreams or wetalkofdreams.com 

Interested in my audiobook? Download it now on Audible: The Little Demons Inside, by Micah Thomas

Christopher Gattis

You would never expect hell to be in the Appalachian mountains of Big Stone Gap, Virginia—and yet—that is exactly how the inmates of Wallens Ridge State Prison describe it. This “supermax” prison houses up to 1,200 of the United States’ most dangerous male criminals. When it first opened, Wallens Ridge was renowned for the violence it showed its inmates. Warning shots, rubber pellets, and stun guns were frequently used to scare and control their population. Christopher Gattis is one of those inmates. On Thanksgiving Day of 2017, Christopher shot and murdered his wife, stepdaughter, and stepdaughter’s boyfriend. Now, he is serving a life sentence at Wallens Ridge State Prison.

Content Warnings: familial murder, abusive prison conditions

SPONSORS:

EverlyWell – And for listeners of the show, EverlyWell is offering a special discount of twenty percent off an at-home lab test at everlywell.com/tcfc.

EVENTS:
True Crime Podcast Festival: http://truecrimepodcastfestival.com/
True Crime Live: Join Lanie & friends for two live show events!
9/22/22 at 7pm –
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/true-crime-live-tickets-328948101627?aff=efbeventtix&fs=e&s=cl
9/23/22 at 7pm –
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/true-crime-live-tickets-385627611567?aff=odcleoeventsincollection&fs=e&s=cl

Credits:-
Follow my socials: https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs
Thank you for listening – if you enjoyed this episode please leave a positive review and rating on apple podcast or your podcast player of choice, it really does help.
You can find us on most social media channels, Twitter @tcfcpod, facebook.com/tcfcpodcast, and Instagram @truecrimefanclubpod & of course, our website is truecrimefanclub.com
If you have an episode suggestion, send us an email at tcfcpod@gmail.com

This episode was researched by Haley Gray and written by Andrea Marshbank.
Content editing by Brittney Martinez.
Produced by Neeks at WeTalkofDreams – check him out on Twitter @WeTalkofDreams or wetalkofdreams.com
Production assisted by Jesse Hawke
Interested in my audiobook? Download it now on Audible: The Little Demons Inside, by Micah Thomas

Murder & Movies

Although true crime has experienced a huge renaissance over the last several years, movies based on true crimes have been popular for decades. In the 1930s, many movies were made, based on prominent gangsters of the time, such as Al Capone, and Ma Barker. However, in the mid-30s, when the Hays Code was enforced, much of the drama was watered down. It wasn’t until the 1960s that violence became prevalent on the screen, and well-known movies based on true crime were made, such as In Cold Blood and Bonnie and Clyde. Of course, in the 1970s and 1980s, made-for-TV movies based on true stories became popular. Movies typically take some liberties about the crimes and often have to leave out important details, to avoid a movie that’s several hours long.

Sponsors:

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EVENTS:

True Crime Podcast Festival: http://truecrimepodcastfestival.com/

Follow my socials:

https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs

Thank you for listening – if you enjoyed this episode please leave a positive review and rating on apple podcast or your podcast player of choice, it really does help.

You can find us on most social media channels, Twitter @tcfcpod, facebook.com/tcfcpodcast, and Instagram @truecrimefanclubpod & of course, our website is truecrimefanclub.com

If you have an episode suggestion, send us an email at tcfcpod@gmail.com

This episode was researched and written by Suzy St. John

Content Editing by: Brittney Martinez

Usually edited by Neeks at WeTalkofDreams.com

Interested in my audiobook, download it on audible now: The Little Demons Inside, by Micah Thomas

Juvenile Offenders

Welcome back to the TCFC podcast. In the United States, dating back to the Thirteen Colonies, approximately 364 juveniles have been executed by individual colonies, states, or the federal government, for crimes they were found guilty of committing. 22 individuals were executed between 1976 and 2005, for crimes committed when they were juveniles. In 1976, the Supreme Court reinstated the death penalty, and in 2005, they ruled that juveniles could not be sentenced to death, as it was a violation of the 8th Amendment (1).

Sponsors:
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EVENTS:

True Crime Podcast Festival: http://truecrimepodcastfestival.com/

Follow my socials:

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Ebony & Deanna: 9-1-1 Domestic Violence

In Today’s episode, you will hear actual 911 calls. We advise extreme caution while listening. If you are a victim of domestic abuse, please reach out to someone for help. Please call the national domestic abuse hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE. That’s 1-800-799-7233 or go to thehotline.org to chat with someone online.

Unfortunately, we discuss domestic violence all too often on this show. One reason is that there are 20 people per minute who are abused by an intimate partner in the United States. This equates to more than 10 million men and women annually. 15 percent of all violent crimes are due to intimate partner violence. There are 20,000 calls made to domestic call centers each day in the United States (1). Many times, a victim of this form of abuse calls 911, in the hopes officers will be able to respond in time. The International Association of Chiefs of Police has created guidelines on how law enforcement agencies should respond to calls of domestic violence, and how 911 telecommunication operators should respond (2). Most of the time, officers are able to respond quickly and effectively to these calls, but sadly, there are times that the violence plays out on the 911 call, with fatal consequences.

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True Crime Convos on Spotify Greenroom: Mark Redwine

Mark Redwine is a 59-year-old man from Colorado who was convicted in October 2021 for the murder of his 13-year-old son, Dylan Redwine, in November 2012.

After flying to his father’s home for a court-ordered visit, Dylan sent several text messages to his mother and his friends before suddenly going silent on the night of November 18, 2012. It was the last time anyone would hear from him.

Mark Redwine contacted Dylan’s mother to ask if he’d heard from their son, which sparked a missing person case that would continue for the next several months. Throughout several interviews during this time, Redwine would have conflicting stories about Dylan in the hours leading up to his disappearance, sparking red flags with investigators.

In June of 2013, partial remains that were later confirmed to belong to Dylan were discovered not far from Redwine’s home. It wasn’t until 2015, however, that Dylan’s skull would be discovered by a pair of hikers, nearly five miles away from where the original remains had been found. The skull showed evidence of violence, and in 2017, Mark Redwine was arrested for Dylan’s murder.

During the lengthy trial process, which included years of delays due to, among other things, a global health crisis, the prosecution would go on to say that Redwine murdered Dylan in a fit of rage after his son confronted him about some compromising photos he’d found of Redwine, including him wearing women’s clothing, wearing a diaper, and consuming feces. 

Redwine was found guilty of second-degree murder and child abuse and sentenced to 48 years in prison.

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Crime Of The Century

In June 1971, President Richard Nixon declared a war on drugs. The “war” increased the size, as well as the presence of federal drug control agencies. Nixon was also responsible for mandatory sentencing for drug offenses, and no-knock warrants. One of President Nixon’s top aides later said that the planning for the war on drugs began during the 1968 campaign when Nixon believed he had two “enemies,” the anti-establishment left and black people. The President couldn’t single out these two elements of society, but he could associate hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and let the media demonize these two groups. The President even made marijuana a Schedule One drug, the most restrictive class of drugs, which includes heroin. Marijuana was supposed to be reviewed by a special commission, which recommended decriminalization of it in 1972. The President refused to budge. Between 1973 and 1977, eleven states decriminalized it, and in October 1977, a Senate Judiciary Committee voted to decriminalize possession of up to an ounce of marijuana for personal use. However, parents became concerned about marijuana use, and with Ronald Reagan’s election as President, the drug war opened up full throttle.

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An Exorcism

In 2014, Pope Francis and the Vatican formally recognized the International Association of Exorcists, which had 250 exorcists in 250 countries (3). Of course, Protestants also carry out exorcisms, but according to Dr. Andrew Chestnut of Virginia Commonwealth University, the Catholic rites are more formal, whereas Protestant exorcisms are often more theatrical. Protestant exorcists will frequently interview the possessed, to try to determine which demon possesses them (4). Unfortunately, there are dozens of non-sanctioned exorcisms that occur in small, cult-like religions, and some that occur without any church affiliation at all. Many of these rituals leave their victims injured or dead. Sadly, a large number of these victims are children (5).

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Murder by Vehicle

Murder by vehicle occurs in small numbers every year. These are often tracked as a vehicle accidents, so good numbers are not available for how many people are killed this way each year. Many of the cases are the end result of a domestic argument or dispute, or as the result of inebriation (1,2). It appears this is predominantly a female-chosen method for murder. The two cases discussed today were apparently done in a heat of passion.

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True Crime Convos: BTK

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To most who met Dennis Rader, they thought he was an unassuming father and husband. They had no idea that hiding beneath the surface was a sadistic killer who terrorized Witchita, Kansas for over two decades. Then, he went dormant…but, why? Find out more in True Crime Convos. 

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Spotify Greenroom: What Happened to Sherin Mathews?

When 3-year-old Sherin Mathews goes missing in the affluent suburb of Richardson, TX the community rallies to find her. Soon, a shocking revelation comes to light. Who was responsible for what happened to Sherin & WHY were the stories constantly changing?

Sherin Mathews

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Deadly Jealousy

In the United States, it is believed nearly 10 million people experience domestic abuse every year. According to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, about 20 people per minute are physically abused by an intimate partner. Victims are often isolated by their partners, leaving them disconnected from their family and friends. Victims are often ashamed of the abuse and are afraid of their abusers.

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Juan Chavez, Thrill Killer

Thrill killers are individuals who find “intense stimulation and excitement” by causing their victims pain or terror before their deaths. Once their prey is dead, they lose interest and often move onto another victim. These types of kills are typically not sexual and do not result in mutilation, as the power and pleasure come from the pain inflicted (1). Spree killers are those who kill at least three victims in a short period of time, usually close together chronologically, although separated geographically (2). Today’s episode discusses a murderer who falls into both categories.

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Ghouls of New York

For most people, when they bury their loved ones, they expect to grieve and for the deceased to rest in peace. Unfortunately, throughout history, and even today, the deceased and their families fall victim to graverobbers, or bodysnatchers. Most people are not aware this gruesome practice still occurs, but in the mid-2000s, thousands of families discovered their loved ones’ corpses had been desecrated.

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Savage Appetites: A conversation with author Rachel Monroe

This is a departure from what you’re used to hearing. Since I have been shuffling my recording equipment around, I didn’t have enough time to get my regular set up ready before needing to record this episode. Instead, I wanted to give you an idea of what our GetVokl streams are like. I would love for you to join me every Thursday at 7pm CST to talk with new authors and other true crime topics. We at TCFC thank you for your support and will have a regular episode next week!

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Rachel Monroe is a writer and volunteer firefighter living in Marfa, Texas. Her work has appeared in The Best American Travel Writing 2018The New YorkerThe AtlanticThe New York TimesThe New York Times Magazine, and elsewhere.

Mia Zapata

The grunge rock scene exploded in Seattle, Washington, in the early ’90s. Bands like Nirvana were rising in popularity, but Seattle called itself home to many up and coming stars. Many of those bands vied for their chance to play at the Comet Tavern, a local bar that still stands today. Mia Zapata and her band, The Gits, were one of the grunge rock bands that were on their way to top. They put in the work, and while they weren’t overnight sensations, they rocked their way to a steady climb upwards. The Gits signed a record deal with the famed Atlantic Records, made an album, and scheduled a tour. Life was going exactly how Mia Zapata always dreamed it would. Until 1993, the night when the devil himself attacked Mia, brutally robbing her life and the world of her music.

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The Wood Family Massacre

Florida is not a stranger to violent and shocking crimes. But, one crime in Tampa is still remembered for its brutality, over 30 years later. What caused a meek, mild-mannered man to slaughter an entire family, including an eight and a half-month old fetus, ripped from its mother’s belly?

Newton Slawson

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The Murder of Timothy MacNeil

Teenagers that kill aren’t widespread. Murderous youngsters is a disturbing thought for most people. An even more troubling idea is that those teenagers, a sibling duo no less, would plot and carry out a plan to murder the only adult that ever protected them. Together, 19-year old Nathaniel Gann and his 17-year old sister Brae Hansen killed their step-father, Timothy MacNeil, in cold blood. They did it simply because Timothy told Brae that she would have to move out of his house when she turned 18, which she deemed unacceptable. Nathan didn’t hesitate to help his sister with her deadly deed, agreeing to help kill the only man they ever considered a father. Murder most certainly is not the typical response to teenage anger. Today’s story is a tragic one, about a pair of siblings who killed, for no other motive than plain old selfishness.

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Robert Carr

Very few rapists seem to be in touch with their sexual deviance and proclivities; fewer still ask to remain behind bars, to protect the public. But one mild-mannered, unassuming rapist-killer did just that, but was released on parole anyway. The results were devastating for many.

Robert Carr

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The Letters – E2

I’ve debated on how to proceed with the letters. At first, I wanted to share various inmates’ stories but, the person I speak to consistently is Milishia. So, this season if you will – I will be sharing our correspondence. Just a recap from episode one, I started my correspondence with inmates across various states over the summer. I wanted to reach out and have conversations with those who are overlooked because their crimes only made blips in the newspaper. I am not advocating or expressing support for these people or their crimes, however, I do want to share their stories. Perhaps you know someone who is incarcerated for similar crimes or maybe this is the first time you’re considering reaching out to an inmate.

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Candace Rough Surface

In many years past, Native American women were told to stuff dirt inside themselves if they were captured by the military, in the hopes the men would just kill them…and not defile them…A sobering statistic provided by IndianLaw.org “More than 4 in 5 American Indian and Alaska Native women have experienced violence, and more than 1 in 2 have experienced sexual violence”. I’m afraid that these numbers aren’t even accurate, as we know, these crimes often go unreported by the victims and local/national media. Candi Rough Surface is not just another victim.

Candi Rough Surface

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Ron Lafferty

On the evening of July 24th, 1984, Brenda Lafferty and her daughter, Erica were brutally murdered in their little apartment in a small suburb of Salt Lake City called American Fork, Utah. The men that attacked Brenda and her child were on a mission. One of the attackers, Ron Lafferty, claimed God sent him on this mission to ‘remove’ Brenda and several others to right the wrongs he felt were committed against him. 

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Pastors are supposed to be beyond reproach and on a pedestal. What happens when one falls from grace, for having lust in his heart for a younger woman? Did he kill his wife, or did she take her own life? 

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