Lois & Betty

Since 1976, when the death penalty was reinstated in the United States, seventeen women have been executed. The two women discussed in today’s episode have the distinction of being the oldest women executed in the country. The women had far different motives for murder, and both women enlisted family members to assist them with their deeds. In this episode, we share two cases: Lois Nadean Smith & Betty Lou Beets. 

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Robert Carr

Very few rapists seem to be in touch with their sexual deviance and proclivities; fewer still ask to remain behind bars, to protect the public. But one mild-mannered, unassuming rapist-killer did just that, but was released on parole anyway. The results were devastating for many.

Robert Carr

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Sante & Kenny Kimes

The bond between a mother and child is a strong one. Most mothers would do anything for their child and vice versa. Some would even kill for their child. But what happens when a mother recruits her son to aid in her life of crime, which included offenses ranging from petty theft to murder? That is precisely what happened with today’s story about Sante and her son, Kenny Kimes Jr. A mother-son duo that became unlikely, yet dangerous criminals, taking the lives of at least three innocent people.

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Listen to Criminal Conduct: On September 2nd, 2010, 24-year-old Michelle O’Connell broke up with her boyfriend, St. Johns County Sheriff’s Deputy, Jeremy Banks. Minutes later, she was dead.

The St. Johns Sheriff’s Office quickly ruled the case a suicide, without examining crucial forensic evidence or interviewing any key witnesses. A medical examiner ruled her death a homicide, yet other investigations failed to gain traction. Her boyfriend, Deputy Jeremy Banks was never charged and is still working as a St. Johns County Sheriff’s Deputy.

Years later, an amateur sleuth named Eli Washtock winds up murdered after investigating Michelle O’Connell’s death. What did he find out?

‘Criminal Conduct’ is an investigative true crime podcast series hosted by John Taylor and Javier Leiva. The hosts retrace the footsteps of Eli Washtock, the slain sleuth; picking up the investigation where he left off.

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Co-Written By: Brittney Martinez & Mari Cole

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The Letters – E2

I’ve debated on how to proceed with the letters. At first, I wanted to share various inmates’ stories but, the person I speak to consistently is Milishia. So, this season if you will – I will be sharing our correspondence. Just a recap from episode one, I started my correspondence with inmates across various states over the summer. I wanted to reach out and have conversations with those who are overlooked because their crimes only made blips in the newspaper. I am not advocating or expressing support for these people or their crimes, however, I do want to share their stories. Perhaps you know someone who is incarcerated for similar crimes or maybe this is the first time you’re considering reaching out to an inmate.

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The Amato Family Murders

When most people think about the state of Florida, they imagine happy thoughts of sun, sand, ocean, and Disney World. It is a vacation destination for most. The Amato family were life-long residents of Chuluota, Florida. They were a happy, fun-loving group that loved their home state very much. The family never missed a Florida Gators home game and were quite active in many outdoor sports. However, their sunny, happy lives came to a violent and bloody end on January 24th, 2018, when the youngest of the Amato boys, Grant, brutally murdered his mom, dad, and brother, all because they refused to continue bailing Grant out of trouble.

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Candace Rough Surface

In many years past, Native American women were told to stuff dirt inside themselves if they were captured by the military, in the hopes the men would just kill them…and not defile them…A sobering statistic provided by IndianLaw.org “More than 4 in 5 American Indian and Alaska Native women have experienced violence, and more than 1 in 2 have experienced sexual violence”. I’m afraid that these numbers aren’t even accurate, as we know, these crimes often go unreported by the victims and local/national media. Candi Rough Surface is not just another victim.

Candi Rough Surface

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The Southside Strangler

In the late ’80s through the early ’90s, Timothy Wilson Spencer was mainly known to the world as The Southside Strangler. However, it was actually the groundbreaking DNA evidence that was used in connection to this case that makes it such an important and relevant case to this day. The same DNA evidence that easily connected Timothy Spencer to each of his cold-blooded murders was the same that was used, for the first time in United States history, to free David Vasquez, an innocent man, from a life sentence in prison for a horrific crime he didn’t commit.  

Timothy Spencer

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Meet The Bakers

Pastors are supposed to be beyond reproach and on a pedestal. What happens when one falls from grace, for having lust in his heart for a younger woman? Did he kill his wife, or did she take her own life? 

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Written / Research: Suzy St.John
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Content Editor: Brittney Martinez
Host: Lanie